BBC Radio 4 Today Programme

Editor Richard Norton-Taylor and Yvette Williams from Justice4Grenfell joined the Today programme (Radio 4's flagship news and current affairs programme) to discuss the importance of verbatim play, Grenfell: System Failure, in giving the public an overview of the Inquiry and the systemic failure that led to the Grenfell fire.
Yvette Williams said: "Both Richard and Nick, the director, have been creative in how they've chosen the individual pieces of publicly available documents from the Inquiry and have put those together in a two-hour piece to let people know the underlying implicit things that went on... The name of this one is System Failure, and it is outing where the system lets down ordinary people today. The Inquiry has come to an end, we are waiting for the report to come out, but how much further on are we? ...Everything from the private companies to the local authority to government did not care about the actual people, and people's lives were not valued, and ultimately 72 people paid the price."
Richard Norton-Taylor said that the play: "...promotes a conversation because the truth comes out of many years of the Inquiry - the truth comes out slowly - it is an accumulation of evidence with a devastating conclusion, quite clearly I think, that this disaster was avoidable."
To listen to the full segment, visit: www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001j4gk (interview at 02:49:45)